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--
Subject: Fwd: U.S. WANTS TO KEEP INTERNET RECORDS-LONGER-TO CATCH
PREDATORS!
---
Subject: TAKE ACTION NOW-EMAIL THIS POST & SIG TO YOUR CONGRESS PERSON
& YOUR STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL & ASK THEM TO IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE
U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT "YOU" WANT FEDERAL LEGISLATION TO STOP THE
GANGS ON THE USENET AND INTERNET FROM THEIR VICIOUS & ADMITTED ATTACKS
ON ADULTS & CHILDREN & THAT WE, (GOTI-(GANGS-ON-THE-INTERNET) PROJECT
WILL HELP THEM & SAVE THE ISP/SERVERS, MULTI-MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BY
PROVIDING "ONE SOURCE" OF INVESTIGATING & REPORTING THESE INTERNET
CRIMINALS ON THE INTERNET, TO THE "FED/STATE DOJ" FOR PROSECUTION.
--
http://www.naag.org/ag/full_ag_table.php
Subject:Write Your Representative - Contact your Congress-person in
the U.S. House of Representatives.
and ask them to create this federal legislation, which Must include
foreign ISPS/SERVERS when they use U.S.A. ISP/SERVERS.
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
--
Subject:U.S. Senate: Senators Home
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
HERE IS WHAT THE "RESPONSIBLE ISP/SERVERS" HAVE BEEN DOING TO REMOVE
THESE SAME PSYCHOTICS & MALICIOUS PEOPLE.
THESE ISPS "ARE ALL "FOR" REMOVING THESE PEOPLE, UNLIKE THE RECENT
COMMENTS BEING MADE BY THE "GREEDY HUGE INTERNET CORPS".
---
Subject:Arbor Networks, Inc.
http://www.arbor.net/fingerprint-sharing-alliance.php
--
IT IS THESE "SAME PSYCHOTIC CRIMINALS" WHO USE THE USENET THAT ARE
INVOLVED IN THESE CHILD-RAPE AND PORNOGRAPHY CASES, MANY OF WHICH HAVE
ALREADY BEEN INVESTIGATED AND ANNOUNCED ON USENET. WHO BETTER TO
COLLECT & REPORT THESE PSYCHOPATHS THEN US WHO ARE THE USERS OF
USENET?
--
Subject:Antisocial personality disorder and the serial bully
http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/apd.htm
--
HERE IS JUST ONE OF HUNDREDS OF WEBSITES THAT HAS BEEN SET UP BY THESE
INTERNET PSYCHOTICS WHICH BLATANTLY STATE HOW THEY INTENTIONALLY
ATTACK A USER OF THE INTERNET/USENET AND AS A VICTIM/TARGET OF THEIRS,
YOU KNOW THESE PSYCHOTIC GANGS COMMIT CRIMINAL ACTS, LIKE HACKING AND
DESTROYING YOUR COMPUTER IF YOU PROTEST AGAINST THEIR MALICIOUS ACTS.
--
Subject:Teh WAY of teh KOOK
http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm
SEND THIS TO OTHERS, ASAP-THERE IS NO TIME TO WASTE...THIS FEDERAL
ACTION IS TAKING PLACE "NOW"-6-02-06-. SYLVIA
Subject: U.S. WANTS TO KEEP INTERNET RECORDS-LONGER-TO CATCH
PREDATORS!
Subject:U.S. wants Web usage info saved - Security - 6-02-06
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13096840/
---
MSNBC Home » Technology & Science » Security
---
FBI, Justice Dept. want Web use info saved
**********************************************
Internet providers wary about holding customer
**********************************************
records longer
*****************
WASHINGTON - Top U.S. law enforcement officials have "told Internet
companies" they must retain customer records longer to help in child
pornography and terrorism investigations, and they are "considering
asking Congress" to require preservation of records.
***********************************
---
"Industry representatives" are expected to meet Friday with "Justice
Department officials", a week after Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
and FBI Director Robert Mueller first raised the issue with executives
from several Internet service providers, including: AOL,
Comcast Corp.,
Google Inc.,
Microsoft Corp. and
Verizon Communications Inc.
(MSNBC.com is a joint venture between Microsoft and NBC News.)
----
The subject has prompted alarm from some executives and privacy
advocates, especially after Gonzales' Justice Department took
**********************************************
Google to court earlier this year to force it to
**********************************************
turn over information on customer searches.
**********************************************
Civil liberties groups also have sued Verizon and other telephone
companies, alleging they are working with the government to provide
information without search warrants on subscriber calling records.
--
Assistant Attorney General Rachel Brand, who attended the first
meeting, said Thursday that some executives raised privacy concerns at
the meeting.
----
But she said Gonzales has not made any decisions about how to proceed
and that the department would be mindful of the privacy issue.
---
"We are looking at whether
requiring longer data retention or
**********************************
asking ISPs to do it informally is something we
*********************************
want to pursue," Brand said.
---
Mueller suggested a period of two years and
*********************************************
said terrorism investigations also would be helped by such a rule,
several people who attended the meeting said.
---
Gonzales was focused on "child pornography"
**********************************************
cases, they said.
---
(1) "would not call for the content" of communications to be
preserved,
--
(2) would keep the information in the companies' hands and
--
(3) could be obtained by the government through a subpoena or other
lawful process, Brand said.
----
Still, one "Internet executive" familiar with the meeting said one
that once retained, the records could be made
**********************************************
available for any criminal investigation or civil
**********************************************
case,
******
"down to a bad divorce, up to a music company asking for people who
visited a file trading site."
-----
The executive, who requested anonymity because it was private meeting
and the talks were still continuing, said: "the industry was likely to
oppose any
******************************************
***************
(1) financial,
(2) privacy and
(3) technical reasons.
--
The department's recent clash with Google probably will make the
companies more resolute in their opposition, the executive said.
---
Several companies said they work hard to protect children online and
often work with law enforcement.
----
"But data retention is a complicated issue with implications not only
for efforts to combat child pornography but also for: security,
privacy, safety, and availability of
**********************************************
low-cost or free Internet services,"
*************************************
Microsoft said in a statement.
*********************************
In a statement, Google said,
********************************
"Any proposals related to data
require careful review and
**********************************************
(1) individual users,
--
(2) law enforcement agencies and
---
(3) Internet companies."
---
The meetings are an outgrowth of Gonzales' interest in beefing up
child porn investigations, some of which he said: have been hampered
by Internet companies'
**********************************************
failure to retain records long enough.
*****************************************
Gonzales, who first raised the issue in an April speech, did not name
any companies or cases. ----
But a Justice Department official said some of the information
provided by Justin Berry, a child pornography victim who testified to
Congress in April,
did not lead to arrests because authorities who
**********************************************
sought help from ISPs were told the records no
**********************************************
longer existed.
*****************
Berry criticized the department for acting too slowly on information
he provided on 1,500 pedophiles.
----
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because investigators
still are looking into Berry's case.
---
At the moment,
there are no broad requirements for
*****************************************
preservation of data,
***********************
although "federal authorities can request" records be maintained for
up to six months
************************************************ when they suspect a
crime has been
*****************************************
committed.
************
Print this Email this
---
© 2006 MSNBC.com
*********************************************
BELOW IS THE E-MAIL I RECEIVED TODAY FROM AN ORGANIZATION ASKING ME TO
"FIGHT AGAINST"
******************
THE FIRST POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR US, THE USERS & VICTIMS OF THE
USENET/INTERNET, TO GET LAWS ON THE BOOKS, THAT WILL "REQUIRE THE TRUE
IDENTITY OF ALL USERS OF THE INTERNET (WHICH MUST BE SET OUT IN NEW
LAWS);
---
WHO (USER) CAN ONLY HAVE "ONE PATH" TO THEIR COMPUTER VIA THE ISP WITH
"NO MUNGING OR FALSE ISP/SERVER PATHS ALLOWED". I.E. "OUT LAW THEM".
---
AND WHICH "EVERY ISP/SERVER" WILL, BY LAW, INVESTIGATE AND
IMMEDIATELY, UPON NOTICE TO THE USER,
REMOVE A STALKING; HARASSING; ABUSIVE SUBSCRIBER FROM THEIR SERVICE
"OR" THE OWNER OF THE ISP/SERER WILL BE FACED WITH HEAVY FINANCIAL
PENALTIES AND PROSECUTION FROM THE U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE,
WITH POSSIBLE LOSS OF THEIR LICENSE TO OPERATE. THIS ALSO INCLUDES
"FOREIGN ISP/SERVERS" WHO USE U.S.A. AIR WAVES.
--
I.E. EVERY PERSON WILL BE ASSIGNED "ONE NUMBER & ONE NAME" WHEN USING
AN ISP/SERVER. THE USER HAS A CHOICE OF WHICH ONE HE/SHE WISHES TO USE
WHILE ON LINE WHICH CAN BE TRACED TO THAT ONE PERSON.
---
THE ISP WILL HAVE A "LEGITIMATE PHYSICAL/MAILING ADDRESS & ISP
ADDRESS, DISPLAYED ON "ALL INTERNET/USENET COMMUNICATIONS" "BEFORE"
ANY PERSON CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET VIA THAT ISP/SERVER. ANY
ATTEMPT TO TAMPER OR REMOVE THAT INFO, INCLUDING THEIR INTERNET I.D.
WILL BECOME A FELONY, LIKE IT IS WHEN SOMEONE TAMPERS OR STEALS "YOUR
MAIL". --
AS IN ALL CRIMINAL & CIVIL CASE LAW IN THE U.S., THE "VICTIM" HAS THE
RIGHT TO FILE A COMPLAINT, YET IN THIS CASE, THE ISP'S/SERVERS "IGNORE
THE VICTIM'S COMPLAINTS" AND THERE ARE FEW, IF ANY FEDERAL LAWS TO
"FORCE THE ISP'S TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST THEIR CLIENTS", WHICH IS "THE
LEGAL ISSUE" HERE.
---
IN THIS CASE (INTERNET USE);
WE WANT TO FIRST HAVE LAWS THAT SAY, WHEN WE, VICTIMS, FILE A
COMPLAINT TO THE ISP "THAT IT CARRIES THE FORCE OF LAW", LIKE A "LEGAL
COMPLAINT" AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEND IT VIA THE INTERNET, WHICH
SENDING CAN ALSO BE USED TO I.D. "US" TO VERIFY THAT THIS COMPLAINT
WAS VALID AND NOT A FORGERY;
--
(WE WANT A COPY OF THE COMPLAINT TO GO TO THE US ATTY GENERAL IN "OUR
STATE", WHICH WILL BE FILED UNDER VARIOUS CHARGES SET UP UNDER "THE
NEW LAWS" AND THESE COMPLAINTS WILL BE USED FOR DATA COLLECTION TO SEE
IF THE ISP IS TAKING ACTION TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC.)
---
IF NOT, THE ISP CAN LOSE IT'S LICENSE VIA REFERRAL BY THE U.S. ATTY.
GENERAL'S OFFICE TO THE FCC & FTC.
---
AS YOU WILL READ, THE BELOW ORGANIZATION IS "AGAIN" USING THE
FRAUDULENT DEFENSE OF "PRIVACY AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH", TO PROTECT THE
VILE AND MALICIOUS ACTS BEING USED BY CLEARLY PSYCHOTIC LIARS,
FORGERS, AND HACKERS, WHO "HAVE NO LEGITIMATE PURPOSE, MUCH LESS,
"LEGAL RIGHTS" TO SPREAD SUCH VICIOUSNESS, I.E.
---
"EVERYONE KNOWS THAT "EVERYTHING
**********************************************
WRITTEN ON THE INTERNET "BECOMES
**********************************************
PUBLIC", I.E. "THEIR IS NO RIGHT TO
********************************************
PRIVACY VIA THE INTERNET",
***********************************
EXCEPT IN CASES OF BANKING TRANSACTIONS, ETC.ALL OF WHICH THE HACKERS
HAVE VIOLATED AND EVERYONE IS WARNED OF THIS POSSIBILITY.
---
ALL USERS ARE ALSO WARNED THAT "WHAT THEY SAY CAN "BE USED AND SAVED
BY OTHERS"...AND THAT INCLUDES LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES AND "YOU",
THE "VICTIM" OF THEIR HATE; HARASSMENT AND ABUSE, AS WELL AS
VIOLATIONS OF LAW.
---
IT IS PAST TIME THAT THE VICTIMS OF THESE HATE CRIMES DEMAND AND GET
"THEIR LEGAL RIGHTS OF PROTECTION" VIA LAWS MADE FOR ENFORCEMENT "ON"
THE ISP/SERVERS, THEN BY PROSECUTION RE U.S. LAW ENFORCEMENT.
---
CONTACT YOUR CONGRESS PERSON AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IMMEDIATELY
BECAUSE THE BELOW ORGANIZATION WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY REPRESENTING THE
GREEDY INTERNET CORPS AND THEIR MALICIOUS SUBSCRIBERS, WILL BE
SCREAMING LOUDER THAN "YOU", THE VICTIMS.
SYLVIA
---
THE OBVIOUS "LIES"; "FRAUD"; "PROPGANDA" OF USING "FEAR" TO COVER-UP
THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES TAKING PLACE ON THE INTERNET/USENET BY USING
ISP/SERVERS, IS MADE CLEAR BY THE BELOW E-MAIL I RECEIVED FROM THIS
ORGANIZATION TODAY.
---
"YOU", THE USER OF USENET "KNOW" THE BELOW IS BASED ON LIES AND FEAR,
BUT, IF YOU DON'T TAKE 5 MINUTES BY CONTACTING THOSE I HAVE LISTED,
"THESE FASCISTS WILL CONTINUE TO CONTROL & ATTACK YOU". IT'S YOUR
CHOICE...ARE YOU LAZY AS HELL OR ARE YOU MAD AS HELL?
---
--
---
Subject:[ PFIR ]
Special: Feds Continue Push For Mandated Internet Data Retention
----
http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-fi-internet2jun02,0,622125.story?
cSubject: Fwd: U.S. WANTS TO KEEP INTERNET RECORDS-LONGER-TO CATCH
PREDATORS!
---
Subject: TAKE ACTION NOW-EMAIL THIS POST & SIG TO YOUR CONGRESS PERSON
& YOUR STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL & ASK THEM TO IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE
U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT "YOU" WANT FEDERAL LEGISLATION TO STOP THE
GANGS ON THE USENET AND INTERNET FROM THEIR VICIOUS & ADMITTED ATTACKS
ON ADULTS & CHILDREN & THAT WE, (GOTI-(GANGS-ON-THE-INTERNET) PROJECT
WILL HELP THEM & SAVE THE ISP/SERVERS, MULTI-MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BY
PROVIDING "ONE SOURCE" OF INVESTIGATING & REPORTING THESE INTERNET
CRIMINALS ON THE INTERNET, TO THE "FED/STATE DOJ" FOR PROSECUTION.
--
http://www.naag.org/ag/full_ag_table.php
Subject:Write Your Representative - Contact your Congress-person in
the U.S. House of Representatives.
and ask them to create this federal legislation, which Must include
foreign ISPS/SERVERS when they use U.S.A. ISP/SERVERS.
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
--
Subject:U.S. Senate: Senators Home
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
HERE IS WHAT THE "RESPONSIBLE ISP/SERVERS" HAVE BEEN DOING TO REMOVE
THESE SAME PSYCHOTICS & MALICIOUS PEOPLE.
THESE ISPS "ARE ALL "FOR" REMOVING THESE PEOPLE, UNLIKE THE RECENT
COMMENTS BEING MADE BY THE "GREEDY HUGE INTERNET CORPS".
---
Subject:Arbor Networks, Inc.
http://www.arbor.net/fingerprint-sharing-alliance.php
--
IT IS THESE "SAME PSYCHOTIC CRIMINALS" WHO USE THE USENET THAT ARE
INVOLVED IN THESE CHILD-RAPE AND PORNOGRAPHY CASES, MANY OF WHICH HAVE
ALREADY BEEN INVESTIGATED AND ANNOUNCED ON USENET. WHO BETTER TO
COLLECT & REPORT THESE PSYCHOPATHS THEN US WHO ARE THE USERS OF
USENET?
--
Subject:Antisocial personality disorder and the serial bully
http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/apd.htm
--
HERE IS JUST ONE OF HUNDREDS OF WEBSITES THAT HAS BEEN SET UP BY THESE
INTERNET PSYCHOTICS WHICH BLATANTLY STATE HOW THEY INTENTIONALLY
ATTACK A USER OF THE INTERNET/USENET AND AS A VICTIM/TARGET OF THEIRS,
YOU KNOW THESE PSYCHOTIC GANGS COMMIT CRIMINAL ACTS, LIKE HACKING AND
DESTROYING YOUR COMPUTER IF YOU PROTEST AGAINST THEIR MALICIOUS ACTS.
--
Subject:Teh WAY of teh KOOK
http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm
SEND THIS TO OTHERS, ASAP-THERE IS NO TIME TO WASTE...THIS FEDERAL
ACTION IS TAKING PLACE "NOW"-6-02-06-. SYLVIA
Subject: U.S. WANTS TO KEEP INTERNET RECORDS-LONGER-TO CATCH
PREDATORS!
Subject:U.S. wants Web usage info saved - Security - 6-02-06
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13096840/
---
MSNBC Home » Technology & Science » Security
---
FBI, Justice Dept. want Web use info saved
**********************************************
Internet providers wary about holding customer
**********************************************
records longer
*****************
WASHINGTON - Top U.S. law enforcement officials have "told Internet
companies" they must retain customer records longer to help in child
pornography and terrorism investigations, and they are "considering
asking Congress" to require preservation of records.
***********************************
---
"Industry representatives" are expected to meet Friday with "Justice
Department officials", a week after Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
and FBI Director Robert Mueller first raised the issue with executives
from several Internet service providers, including: AOL,
Comcast Corp.,
Google Inc.,
Microsoft Corp. and
Verizon Communications Inc.
(MSNBC.com is a joint venture between Microsoft and NBC News.)
----
The subject has prompted alarm from some executives and privacy
advocates, especially after Gonzales' Justice Department took
**********************************************
Google to court earlier this year to force it to
**********************************************
turn over information on customer searches.
**********************************************
Civil liberties groups also have sued Verizon and other telephone
companies, alleging they are working with the government to provide
information without search warrants on subscriber calling records.
--
Assistant Attorney General Rachel Brand, who attended the first
meeting, said Thursday that some executives raised privacy concerns at
the meeting.
----
But she said Gonzales has not made any decisions about how to proceed
and that the department would be mindful of the privacy issue.
---
"We are looking at whether
requiring longer data retention or
**********************************
asking ISPs to do it informally is something we
*********************************
want to pursue," Brand said.
---
Mueller suggested a period of two years and
*********************************************
said terrorism investigations also would be helped by such a rule,
several people who attended the meeting said.
---
Gonzales was focused on "child pornography"
**********************************************
cases, they said.
---
(1) "would not call for the content" of communications to be
preserved,
--
(2) would keep the information in the companies' hands and
--
(3) could be obtained by the government through a subpoena or other
lawful process, Brand said.
----
Still, one "Internet executive" familiar with the meeting said one
that once retained, the records could be made
**********************************************
available for any criminal investigation or civil
**********************************************
case,
******
"down to a bad divorce, up to a music company asking for people who
visited a file trading site."
-----
The executive, who requested anonymity because it was private meeting
and the talks were still continuing, said: "the industry was likely to
oppose any
******************************************
***************
(1) financial,
(2) privacy and
(3) technical reasons.
--
The department's recent clash with Google probably will make the
companies more resolute in their opposition, the executive said.
---
Several companies said they work hard to protect children online and
often work with law enforcement.
----
"But data retention is a complicated issue with implications not only
for efforts to combat child pornography but also for: security,
privacy, safety, and availability of
**********************************************
low-cost or free Internet services,"
*************************************
Microsoft said in a statement.
*********************************
In a statement, Google said,
********************************
"Any proposals related to data
require careful review and
**********************************************
(1) individual users,
--
(2) law enforcement agencies and
---
(3) Internet companies."
---
The meetings are an outgrowth of Gonzales' interest in beefing up
child porn investigations, some of which he said: have been hampered
by Internet companies'
**********************************************
failure to retain records long enough.
*****************************************
Gonzales, who first raised the issue in an April speech, did not name
any companies or cases. ----
But a Justice Department official said some of the information
provided by Justin Berry, a child pornography victim who testified to
Congress in April,
did not lead to arrests because authorities who
**********************************************
sought help from ISPs were told the records no
**********************************************
longer existed.
*****************
Berry criticized the department for acting too slowly on information
he provided on 1,500 pedophiles.
----
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because investigators
still are looking into Berry's case.
---
At the moment,
there are no broad requirements for
*****************************************
preservation of data,
***********************
although "federal authorities can request" records be maintained for
up to six months
************************************************ when they suspect a
crime has been
*****************************************
committed.
************
Print this Email this
---
© 2006 MSNBC.com
*********************************************
BELOW IS THE E-MAIL I RECEIVED TODAY FROM AN ORGANIZATION ASKING ME TO
"FIGHT AGAINST"
******************
THE FIRST POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR US, THE USERS & VICTIMS OF THE
USENET/INTERNET, TO GET LAWS ON THE BOOKS, THAT WILL "REQUIRE THE TRUE
IDENTITY OF ALL USERS OF THE INTERNET (WHICH MUST BE SET OUT IN NEW
LAWS);
---
WHO (USER) CAN ONLY HAVE "ONE PATH" TO THEIR COMPUTER VIA THE ISP WITH
"NO MUNGING OR FALSE ISP/SERVER PATHS ALLOWED". I.E. "OUT LAW THEM".
---
AND WHICH "EVERY ISP/SERVER" WILL, BY LAW, INVESTIGATE AND
IMMEDIATELY, UPON NOTICE TO THE USER,
REMOVE A STALKING; HARASSING; ABUSIVE SUBSCRIBER FROM THEIR SERVICE
"OR" THE OWNER OF THE ISP/SERER WILL BE FACED WITH HEAVY FINANCIAL
PENALTIES AND PROSECUTION FROM THE U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE,
WITH POSSIBLE LOSS OF THEIR LICENSE TO OPERATE. THIS ALSO INCLUDES
"FOREIGN ISP/SERVERS" WHO USE U.S.A. AIR WAVES.
--
I.E. EVERY PERSON WILL BE ASSIGNED "ONE NUMBER & ONE NAME" WHEN USING
AN ISP/SERVER. THE USER HAS A CHOICE OF WHICH ONE HE/SHE WISHES TO USE
WHILE ON LINE WHICH CAN BE TRACED TO THAT ONE PERSON.
---
THE ISP WILL HAVE A "LEGITIMATE PHYSICAL/MAILING ADDRESS & ISP
ADDRESS, DISPLAYED ON "ALL INTERNET/USENET COMMUNICATIONS" "BEFORE"
ANY PERSON CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET VIA THAT ISP/SERVER. ANY
ATTEMPT TO TAMPER OR REMOVE THAT INFO, INCLUDING THEIR INTERNET I.D.
WILL BECOME A FELONY, LIKE IT IS WHEN SOMEONE TAMPERS OR STEALS "YOUR
MAIL". --
AS IN ALL CRIMINAL & CIVIL CASE LAW IN THE U.S., THE "VICTIM" HAS THE
RIGHT TO FILE A COMPLAINT, YET IN THIS CASE, THE ISP'S/SERVERS "IGNORE
THE VICTIM'S COMPLAINTS" AND THERE ARE FEW, IF ANY FEDERAL LAWS TO
"FORCE THE ISP'S TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST THEIR CLIENTS", WHICH IS "THE
LEGAL ISSUE" HERE.
---
IN THIS CASE (INTERNET USE);
WE WANT TO FIRST HAVE LAWS THAT SAY, WHEN WE, VICTIMS, FILE A
COMPLAINT TO THE ISP "THAT IT CARRIES THE FORCE OF LAW", LIKE A "LEGAL
COMPLAINT" AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEND IT VIA THE INTERNET, WHICH
SENDING CAN ALSO BE USED TO I.D. "US" TO VERIFY THAT THIS COMPLAINT
WAS VALID AND NOT A FORGERY;
--
(WE WANT A COPY OF THE COMPLAINT TO GO TO THE US ATTY GENERAL IN "OUR
STATE", WHICH WILL BE FILED UNDER VARIOUS CHARGES SET UP UNDER "THE
NEW LAWS" AND THESE COMPLAINTS WILL BE USED FOR DATA COLLECTION TO SEE
IF THE ISP IS TAKING ACTION TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC.)
---
IF NOT, THE ISP CAN LOSE IT'S LICENSE VIA REFERRAL BY THE U.S. ATTY.
GENERAL'S OFFICE TO THE FCC & FTC.
---
AS YOU WILL READ, THE BELOW ORGANIZATION IS "AGAIN" USING THE
FRAUDULENT DEFENSE OF "PRIVACY AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH", TO PROTECT THE
VILE AND MALICIOUS ACTS BEING USED BY CLEARLY PSYCHOTIC LIARS,
FORGERS, AND HACKERS, WHO "HAVE NO LEGITIMATE PURPOSE, MUCH LESS,
"LEGAL RIGHTS" TO SPREAD SUCH VICIOUSNESS, I.E.
---
"EVERYONE KNOWS THAT "EVERYTHING
**********************************************
WRITTEN ON THE INTERNET "BECOMES
**********************************************
PUBLIC", I.E. "THEIR IS NO RIGHT TO
********************************************
PRIVACY VIA THE INTERNET",
***********************************
EXCEPT IN CASES OF BANKING TRANSACTIONS, ETC.ALL OF WHICH THE HACKERS
HAVE VIOLATED AND EVERYONE IS WARNED OF THIS POSSIBILITY.
---
ALL USERS ARE ALSO WARNED THAT "WHAT THEY SAY CAN "BE USED AND SAVED
BY OTHERS"...AND THAT INCLUDES LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES AND "YOU",
THE "VICTIM" OF THEIR HATE; HARASSMENT AND ABUSE, AS WELL AS
VIOLATIONS OF LAW.
---
IT IS PAST TIME THAT THE VICTIMS OF THESE HATE CRIMES DEMAND AND GET
"THEIR LEGAL RIGHTS OF PROTECTION" VIA LAWS MADE FOR ENFORCEMENT "ON"
THE ISP/SERVERS, THEN BY PROSECUTION RE U.S. LAW ENFORCEMENT.
---
CONTACT YOUR CONGRESS PERSON AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IMMEDIATELY
BECAUSE THE BELOW ORGANIZATION WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY REPRESENTING THE
GREEDY INTERNET CORPS AND THEIR MALICIOUS SUBSCRIBERS, WILL BE
SCREAMING LOUDER THAN "YOU", THE VICTIMS.
SYLVIA
---
THE OBVIOUS "LIES"; "FRAUD"; "PROPGANDA" OF USING "FEAR" TO COVER-UP
THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES TAKING PLACE ON THE INTERNET/USENET BY USING
ISP/SERVERS, IS MADE CLEAR BY THE BELOW E-MAIL I RECEIVED FROM THIS
ORGANIZATION TODAY.
---
"YOU", THE USER OF USENET "KNOW" THE BELOW IS BASED ON LIES AND FEAR,
BUT, IF YOU DON'T TAKE 5 MINUTES BY CONTACTING THOSE I HAVE LISTED,
"THESE FASCISTS WILL CONTINUE TO CONTROL & ATTACK YOU". IT'S YOUR
CHOICE...ARE YOU LAZY AS HELL OR ARE YOU MAD AS HELL?
---
--
---
Subject:[ PFIR ]
Special: Feds Continue Push For Mandated Internet Data Retention
----
http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-fi-internet2jun02,0,622125.story?
oll=la-home-headlines
--
"The Justice Department said Thursday that it was not seeking to have
the contents of e-mail archived, just information about the websites
people visit and those with whom they correspond."
-----
http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000175.html
"Sounding the Alarm on Government-Mandated Data Retention" ------
Greetings.
---
This is a critical topic.
--
The impracticality and cost issues
**************************************
associated with the new DOJ Internet data retention proposals are
relatively obvious.
---
It's difficult to even understand who would be required to comply with
such demands.
---
Only the big Web service companies?
--
ISPs? (via packet tracking of their
subscribers running their own servers?)
---
Every small firm, organization, or even
"individuals who operate their own e-mail and
**********************************************
Web servers?
***************
---
Are the existing privacy policies of such entities instantly negated
if they conflict with the DOJ wish list or data retention legislation?
---
It's also obvious how e-mail contact information could be abused.
*******************
---
But there's something even "more insidious" in this situation.
---
In the recent DOJ vs. Google case, Google and most unbiased observers
correctly noted that "Web destinations" (URLs) frequently contain all
manner of "personal and private information."
---
Names, addresses, social security numbers, dreams, hopes, interests,
fears, medical queries --
all manner of details of our lives are
*****************************************
embedded in the URLs
"we submit" to search engines and other Web
*************
sites.
---
For all practical purposes, URLs in the Web context are very much like
the content of phone calls in the conventional telecom context,
judging by the level of detailed data that URLs provide and
"their ability to allow complete tracking of our
**********************************************
every related Internet action in most cases".
**********************************************
---
If Internet users must
***********************
"live in fear that their actions on the Net"
*******************************************
are subject to retrospective analysis
*************************************
-- not only based on today's
criteria but potentially on tomorrow's as well
how "we view and use" the Net will be drastic,
**********************************************
with vast "unintended negative consequences"
*********************************************
that strike to the heart of "our democracies".
**********************************************
---
This issue is ultimately more important than network neutrality,
Internet governance, or most (if not all) of the other
technically-related concerns that we bandy about here in IP or in most
other forums, because it strikes to the very "core of basic privacy
concerns" and "personal freedoms".
----
Government-mandated Internet data retention could be the most potent
single technological move in recent history toward enabling future
tyranny against both individuals and groups.
---
We must not allow this issue to be "managed" through private meetings
requested by government officials, or as a mere footnote in the public
discourse or hastily passed
legislation -- to be treated as a fait accompli by this or future
administrations.
--Lauren--
---
Lauren Weinstein
Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800
http://www.pfir.org/lauren
Co-Founder, PFIR
- People For Internet Responsibility -
http://www.pfir.org
Co-Founder, IOIC
- International Open Internet Coalition - http://www.ioic.net
Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee
on Computers and Public Policy
Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com
DayThink: http://daythink.vortex.com
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"The Justice Department said Thursday that it was not seeking to have
the contents of e-mail archived, just information about the websites
people visit and those with whom they correspond."
-----
http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000175.html
"Sounding the Alarm on Government-Mandated Data Retention" ------
Greetings.
---
This is a critical topic.
--
The impracticality and cost issues
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associated with the new DOJ Internet data retention proposals are
relatively obvious.
---
It's difficult to even understand who would be required to comply with
such demands.
---
Only the big Web service companies?
--
ISPs? (via packet tracking of their
subscribers running their own servers?)
---
Every small firm, organization, or even
"individuals who operate their own e-mail and
**********************************************
Web servers?
***************
---
Are the existing privacy policies of such entities instantly negated
if they conflict with the DOJ wish list or data retention legislation?
---
It's also obvious how e-mail contact information could be abused.
*******************
---
But there's something even "more insidious" in this situation.
---
In the recent DOJ vs. Google case, Google and most unbiased observers
correctly noted that "Web destinations" (URLs) frequently contain all
manner of "personal and private information."
---
Names, addresses, social security numbers, dreams, hopes, interests,
fears, medical queries --
all manner of details of our lives are
*****************************************
embedded in the URLs
"we submit" to search engines and other Web
*************
sites.
---
For all practical purposes, URLs in the Web context are very much like
the content of phone calls in the conventional telecom context,
judging by the level of detailed data that URLs provide and
"their ability to allow complete tracking of our
**********************************************
every related Internet action in most cases".
**********************************************
---
If Internet users must
***********************
"live in fear that their actions on the Net"
*******************************************
are subject to retrospective analysis
*************************************
-- not only based on today's
criteria but potentially on tomorrow's as well
how "we view and use" the Net will be drastic,
**********************************************
with vast "unintended negative consequences"
*********************************************
that strike to the heart of "our democracies".
**********************************************
---
This issue is ultimately more important than network neutrality,
Internet governance, or most (if not all) of the other
technically-related concerns that we bandy about here in IP or in most
other forums, because it strikes to the very "core of basic privacy
concerns" and "personal freedoms".
----
Government-mandated Internet data retention could be the most potent
single technological move in recent history toward enabling future
tyranny against both individuals and groups.
---
We must not allow this issue to be "managed" through private meetings
requested by government officials, or as a mere footnote in the public
discourse or hastily passed
legislation -- to be treated as a fait accompli by this or future
administrations.
--Lauren--
---
Lauren Weinstein
Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800
http://www.pfir.org/lauren
Co-Founder, PFIR
- People For Internet Responsibility -
http://www.pfir.org
Co-Founder, IOIC
- International Open Internet Coalition - http://www.ioic.net
Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee
on Computers and Public Policy
Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com
DayThink: http://daythink.vortex.com
______________________________________________
pfir mailing list
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