Discussion:
Should I join Freemasons, Elks or Rotary Club?
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Martha
2004-12-25 08:41:12 UTC
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Why? It's full of fallacies.
Yes, Masonry is full of fallacies and deceptions like this:

The "God" of the first 3 Degrees, is "deistic", in the sense that he is a
creator but can not be known... and this is why Pike can claim that "all
specific conceptions of God are idolatrous, except Masonry's" ("Morals and
Dogma", p.516)... so, the God of the Bible, or Koran, are "idolatrous".

... This "deistic God" is a boundless, eternal, universal, undenominational
and international Divine Spirit... but "unapproachable"!... the only
approachable "acting god" is the Worshipful Master. So, a Mason may believe
in only one God, but Freemasonry welcomes all Masons Gods in the same
Pantheon, as far as the allegiance in the Lodge is to the Worshipful Master,
and any other God can not even be mentioned.

... In fact, any Lodge is a "federation of Gods and Religions"... and the
greatest deception is that the individual Mason is "trusting in God", but
not in his God, but in the Worshipful Master!... and the secret Mason
authorities behind him!, because it is another deception to make believe
that the local Lodge has the supreme authority, outranked by nobody, not
even by the Grand Lodge.

- After the 3rd Degree,

Masonry accepts a particular form of pantheism, "Panentheism", where "all is
god, and god is all", a pantheistic conception of deity which has passed
from India through the secret doctrines of the Kabbalah into Freemasonry and
the actual New Age Movement. The so called "Grand Architect of the Universe"
(G.A.O.T.U.), after the 3rd degree is not "a person"... "it" is "nature", a
"force", "energy"... a "stone", a "star", "you", "I"... it is "it", not
"he"... a most cunning way to deceive the first 3 Degrees, most of the
Masons!...

... And this is why Masonry claims that God is in every Mason... but it is
in the same sense that God is in any dog or any stone...



MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!
Mr. All Bad
2004-12-25 04:29:16 UTC
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Post by Martha
Why? It's full of fallacies.
The "God" of the first 3 Degrees, is "deistic", in the sense that he is a
creator but can not be known... and this is why Pike can claim that "all
specific conceptions of God are idolatrous, except Masonry's" ("Morals and
Dogma", p.516)... so, the God of the Bible, or Koran, are "idolatrous".
... This "deistic God" is a boundless, eternal, universal, undenominational
and international Divine Spirit... but "unapproachable"!... the only
approachable "acting god" is the Worshipful Master. So, a Mason may believe
in only one God, but Freemasonry welcomes all Masons Gods in the same
Pantheon, as far as the allegiance in the Lodge is to the Worshipful Master,
and any other God can not even be mentioned.
... In fact, any Lodge is a "federation of Gods and Religions"... and the
greatest deception is that the individual Mason is "trusting in God", but
not in his God, but in the Worshipful Master!... and the secret Mason
authorities behind him!, because it is another deception to make believe
that the local Lodge has the supreme authority, outranked by nobody, not
even by the Grand Lodge.
- After the 3rd Degree,
Masonry accepts a particular form of pantheism, "Panentheism",
I'm guessing there may be some distinction between panentheism and
pantheism. I did not read you elaborating on the distinction, though.
http://www.members.shaw.ca/jgfriesen/Definitions/Pantheism.html

The notion that the world is in God, supposes a greater god than the
notion of God being in the world.
Post by Martha
where "all is
god, and god is all", a pantheistic conception of deity which has passed
from India through the secret doctrines of the Kabbalah into Freemasonry and
the actual New Age Movement. The so called "Grand Architect of the Universe"
(G.A.O.T.U.), after the 3rd degree is not "a person"... "it" is "nature", a
"force", "energy"... a "stone", a "star", "you", "I"... it is "it", not
"he"... a most cunning way to deceive the first 3 Degrees, most of the
Masons!...
... And this is why Masonry claims that God is in every Mason... but it is
in the same sense that God is in any dog or any stone...
If the Universe were entirely dependent upon God for its existence,
would there _really_ be anything beside God? Could there? Wouldn't
there be nothing beside God? If there were nothing beside God, there is
this dilemma, no?

- Mr. All Bad
Larry
2004-12-27 03:19:56 UTC
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Agreed.

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