Poetryscams.com Scam

[PoetWatchdog]

Poetryscams.com is owned by Jeff Paris and he also owns Literacy Escape.
The man is not stable and lists false information on PoetryScams.com.

Jeff Paris also owns several domains under his name

ZeroFunk.com
LiteraryEscape.com
Poetry lessons
Poetry scams
Literature forums
Literature Vault

He has several adds on poetryscams.com linking to literyescape.com
which is a ploy to poets to have you pay for his 39$ payment for
membership at literacyescape.


Read more here

http://tinyurl.com/4cjde

[Unregistered]

I am the owner of Literaryescape.com. Our website was developed in
hopes of inspiring writers to evolve. We offer member created as well
as administrator created clubs for critique, discussion, and poetic
exercises. We have included a database of classical poems, poetry
lessons, and objective information on poetry scams through our sister
site poetryscams.com. I have an insatiable thirst for all things
literary, and I hope that by adding all these features to my site, the
members can find a plethora of useful tools to develop their writing
skills.


We no longer charge a fee for the upgraded service. All of the tools
mentioned above such as clubs, lessons, databases, and forums have
always been free. We only charged the yearly fee to people who wished
to have non-literary related services such as more space for their
blogs and member created websites. We were running our site on
expensive servers and thought by adding this upgraded service, we could
break even.

We have since downgraded our server in order to make the site
completely free.

In response to poetryscams.com being a ploy, we have never hidden the
fact that literaryescape.com is related to poetryscams.com.

On another note, other than providing a link to literature forums and
literature vault, we are in no way related to those sites. We do not
own those sites, nor do we have any administrative control with those
sites.

We would also like to note that my husband is a programmer and does own
the site www.zerofunk.com. That website is not related to our literary
sites; it is simply a separate site that my husband maintains.

Please visit our site at www.literaryescape.com to make an assessment.
If you find anything that appears to be underhanded or suspicious,
please e-mail me at ***@literaryescape.com and I will make every
effort to remove or change the suspicious attribute of the site.

We are dedicated to providing a safe and inspiring environment to any
writer who wishes to join our site.

Sincerely,
Devrie Paradowski
Co-founder of Literaryescape.com

[Unregistered]

I'm Rose DesRochers the Administrator of Todays-Woman Inc , I see the
wife of poetry-scams.com/Literaryescape.com has came here to post a
message. For the record her husband Jeff Paris brought this on himself
when he used her website Literaryescape.com as his bidding tool., it is
time the writing community new the truth. Todays woman.net has a solid
one year reputation on the internet. Alberto O. Cappas, Publisher of
The New Tomorrow Newspaper has already recognized todays-woman.net as a
wonderful resource for writers and published us in their November 2004
newspaper addition.

Several of our members are published writers, columnist and have been
in the writing business for some time and some own their own publishing
companies. Todays-woman. net provides accurate information.
Devrie Paradowsk (Paris) and her husband Jeff Paris own Poetryscams.com
and literaryescape.com.
Jeff Paris markets several types of "businesses" Jeff Paris owns
poetryscams.com ,literaryescape.com and a few others and he has even
tried his hand at programming from open source scripts he has Ripped
off from the net from sites sorceforge.net.
On several programming sites there are warnings that warn webmasters
not to pay him for his scripts as they are open source and the website
in itself poetryscams.com is actually a scam and a ploy to get poets to
pay $ 39 to join his writing community literacy escape. Over the past
Weeks of December 2004 Jeff Paris has supposedly changed his business
ethnics, however one thing he has not change is his harassment towards
me.
Jeff Paris is not a writer and has no knowledge in the writing
industry. I am guessing his wife Devrie Paradowsk does.
I have known Jeff Paris for quite some time and was very impressed with
his business PoetryScams.com and Literacy Escape until a couple months
ago when everything changed my outlook about him and how dishonest he
operates his businesses.
He lists business on his site as scams, or that they are run by
immortal webmasters or fraudulent business if you don't provide a link
to him or if you upset him.
I find it quite strange that he would list himself as a private
investigator. He likes to run in the circle of the big guys and blames
his harassment behind Borderline Personality Disorder and Adult Autism.
One must take responsibility for their actions.
He sends abusing emails etc, I have an entire inbox of emails and can
provide full header that comes from his IP address. Emails he has sent
from several of his emails addresses to both my husband Shawn
DesRochers and I.
He black listed my website Todays-Woman Inc on his poetry scams for no
reason. He was upset as I had declined to link to him , as I saw him as
an immortal ,dishonest webmaster. Our website is not a scam.
We are a free online community with a solid one year reputation. Our
site is ran solely on donations and we make no profit from a free
community that we run.
We do provide advertising to our writing community. However this is
simply a service we offer that goes towards covering our cost of
running this site and so you the writers gets something extra out of
your donation.
He says that he provides information for scams he has investigated, yet
has no solid evidence backing this that todays-woman.net is a scam or
any solid reason to blacklist us.
This information I'm posting here is not to get back at Jeff Paris, it
is about his dishonesty as a website / business owner and his ongoing
harassment of other website owners.
The administrator of literacy escape contacted me last month regarding
our link to him on todays-woman that he could not find it and it was
not accessible by Google bots. I sent him a Google cache of our website
showing him Google did pick up his link.
I have on average 15 / 20 Google bots on todays-woman each day and they
can access our weblink area.
He then apologized to me the link was there, after jumping to
conclusion and sending me a previous nasty email. You will still see
the Google cache where we were linked to LiteraryEscape.com
Shortly after this he listed on his website PoetryScams.com as bad to
do business with. I have gone to Jeff Paris and asked for the situation
to be resolved. We did resolve the situation and no more than a week
later he listed us on poetryscams again.
I have copies of all email communications between he and I. I have
logged ip addresses where he has used my feedback form to harass me. I
have banned his IP and he has reset it to come through a different IP.
He has removed us from his black-list only to put us right back on
again.

He then sends abusing emails etc , I have an entire inbox full.
I also have logged ips where he used my feedback form to send childish
emails and can provide them into any legal representation with full
header or anyone who wishes to see them.

Only recently after I filed a report at ripoff.com and him getting word
of this has he updated his site to include his wife's information. Jeff
Paris states inaccurate information on his website when he states that
I have no experience in poetry or compassion for online users. He
states false information when he says that I have edit emails he sent ,
stalked or harassed him. He provides unacturate information when he
states that I abuse my members or the testimonials are not from actual
members. Everything on that website is a lie and slanderous statement
about me , except for my photo He and his wife edited of me that he
admits to doing on rip off report.com and implies it is not a crime to
take a photo off someone's web page and edit it.
I think todays-woman reputation and our testimonials will speak for
itself and my accomplishments of having my own book published since the
opening of todays-woman. Unlike he states I am not self published.

Despite several emails requesting that Jeff Paris end all contact with
us he still contacts me.
I have all evidence of harassment, dishonesty , libel , slanderous and
his trying to sell open source scripts he has Ripped off from the net
from sites sorceforge.net this and will provide it to any willing
parties that require a screen capture , logs or emails, full header
included.

He states several emails were received from me that states, I have sent
mail after cease was asked to be stopped on his part. I was the one who
requested he cease emailing me. My host provider can validate when I
sent my last email to him and I can vouch that my husband Shawn and I
both received an email from Mr.Jeff Paris as of December 16th and I'm
sure we will receive mail in the future. He reports on his site that he
will be making all information available for a court case and that all
materials from the future court case will be made public as per the
'Right to Information Act'. If he wants to waste his money to take me
to court over this, he will be wasting his money as I have all evidence
including his abusive letters to support my statements. I would not file
a report unless I have other wise.
He also states that George Bush would not let him leave America for a
court case as his wife is stationed in Iceland.

To post slanderous information on a website / harass / stalk your
victim and list there business as fraudulent with no solid evidence to
back it is a scam in itself not to mention changing the appearance of
your website to resemble the site you are black listing , all things
Mr. Paris has done.
Yes Poetryscams.com now resembles todays-woman.net in both design and
color a design he did not design but purchased.
I think this all started over one upset webmaster, who was mad that we
removed his link from our site for breaking the toss and went on to
blow a small situation out of the water and by doing so the truth came
out about him as more evidence came up about how dishonest he is.
Jeff Paris has now banned anyone in the Belleville, Toronto, Hamilton ,
Brockville , Kingston area , as he has blocked the Ip address of both
Kos and Sympatico customers.
In his block you get a page where two photos are edited of me. One
applies I'm having an affair on my husband. He states his wife did edit
these photos. I have not given him permission to use my photos,
therefore I will be filing a civil lawsuit against Jeff Paris, for
harassment, stalking. His mission is to get even and/or take revenge.
He has a grudge and he's going to do something about it.
However the way he has gone about it is a crime and I'm not sure what
any of this has to do with writing? Now I ask anyone reading this is
this not harassment?
Please do not let this cloud your vision of joining todays-woman.net ,
we are a wonderful community and many publish writers , columnists and
publishers can vouch for our reputation.
Though we have asked Jeff Paris to cease all communications we just
receive more and more slander. From Jeff Paris through ripe.net United
States Navy.
Several screen captures , logs , and emails he has sent me can be found
here.
http://tinyurl.com/5nrzl
The reports filed through rip off report can be found here
http://tinyurl.com/4rlmk
You may mail me through my feedback form should you have any questions.
I apologize for announcing this here.
This is my last post on this subject despite what Mrs and Mr Paris will
reply.
You can make your own decision based on imformation I have provided
See the following link
http://tinyurl.com/4cjde

[Unregistered]

Rose, please stop being so dishonest. I have a lot of emails from you
attacking me personally, and you have lied across the 'internet'
(http://tinyurl.com/5wb2c) about us.

Have I done this to you? The truth always comes out rose. You just wait
and see your dishonest opinions backfire in your face.

By the way, what does Ripe.Net have to do with the Navy? Silly.

You and your husband claim to be highly educated, but anyone can tell
you that your actions sure don't reflect this.

BTW: Get over it. You are a real low life

[Jeff Paris]

Responsibility for their actions? You originally got mad at me because I
appologized to a person that you were stalking. You said and I quote,
"You just were covering your own ass, Jeff Paris, and you made yourself
to look like the hero. How dare you appoligoze, you should be
appologizing to me!!"

Rose, there are no heros in situations like this. But I would not
expect your puny mind to comprehend this.

You still have not posted on piece of evidence as to why we run scam
sites. i know you are uneducated, so here is what a scam is and what
fraud is, according to Mirriam-Webster. (a dictionary, try using one.)

Get a life, for real. Have you nothing better to do that lie? You lie
so much that you convince youself of it.

Just to let you know, I do not hide behind my disabilities. If you
would have read my blog, you would have seen that I fight to overcome
them. More than I can say for you, you psycho.






One entry found for scam.


Main Entry: scam
Pronunciation: 'skam
Function: noun
Etymology: origin unknown
: a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation <an insurance scam>





Main Entry: fraud
Pronunciation: 'frod
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English fraude, from Middle French, from Latin
fraud-, fraus
1 a : DECEIT, TRICKERY; specifically : intentional perversion of truth
in order to induce another to part with something of value or to
surrender a legal right b : an act of deceiving or misrepresenting :
TRICK
2 a : a person who is not what he or she pretends to be : IMPOSTOR;
also : one who defrauds : CHEAT b : one that is not what it seems or is
represented to be
synonym see DECEPTION, IMPOSTURE


So, psycho-stalker, what has our site got to do with scams besides the
fact at we expose scams?

Here is the original email from your hubby that started this moronic
and childish temper tantrum of yours:


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To: <***@zerofunk.com>
Subject: Attention read and respond accordingly!
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Attention Jeff Paris

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After being notified by one of our members that you have blacklisted us
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on
your domain site as a scam is total bullshit and l request you remove
it =
at
once.=20

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The link l referring to is this=20

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http://tinyurl.com/4rbqq

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We have or not ever been a scam your link was on our Site and was not
in =
a
members only area all visitors can view this section no problem and has
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been
that way since the begging. The only time it was not accessible was
when =
it
was being upgraded to the new SQL abstraction layer and it was not
accessible by anyone but me the Webmaster of Todays-Woman.net!

=20

You have been dealing with Rose Jeff because your lack of or ignorance
towards Rose you could not compete with me with your eyes closed.

=20

Now you either remove the listed name Todays-Woman.net off your =
blacklist or
l will seek legal contribution from you and any third party you're
associated with.

=20

This is not just a threat Mr. Jeff Paris this is a promise, Your pissed
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as
one we do not tolerate your lack of now how and bull shit there are so
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many
sites that bad mouth you now and your knowledge of running a poetry
community is also bogus you have no members or cliental. Compared to
our =
400
members and we are a free community and still will be long after your
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gone.

=20

You have 24 hours to comply with this order or a court petition will
be
filed as a copy of this has already been sent to our Attorney lets see
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who
laughs last. =20

=20

Mr. Shawn DesRochers
Webmaster & Co-Administrator
Todays-Woman <http://www.todays-woman.net>=20
Administrator & Free Lance Programmer
Invision-Graphics <http://www.invision-graphics.com>=20

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I have 41 more, including 2 that you sent two other webmasters, trying
to bring them into this.

[jeff paris]

Ok, by now everyone is asking WTF?

This started because she asked me for a link trade. a week later, I
told her to post our link in a public place. 2 months later, I saw she
had not. (She lies about this also.) So, as per the standard with
webmasters, I blacklisted her from ever having a link on our network
again.

THat is when she started sending hate mail and making false emails,
stating I sent them. However, every email she send me is in my outlook
express database along with the emails from many of her users' emails
tellingme of the way she treats her site's members.

You see how she has treated me? This is just the tip of the Iceberg
compared to how she treats her members.

Notice that her poems are the only ones to ever make her top 5 list?
Hmmm.....you decide.

She is also a self published poet with PoetryAmerica.Com, one of the
largest vanity publishing scams on the net. But, dont take my word for
it, research it for yourself:) To be published with them, you pay them,
they do not pay you and they do not market the books they print. So, her
publishings are self imposed and no real publisher would even use it as
toilet paper.

[Rose DesRochers]

He also just proved that he listed us on his blacklist my husband got
'word' (http://tinyurl.com/3jkd7) of it and contacted him. There were
no 41 emails.

Not to mention the email I just received from his wife last night where
she asks
.....................................................................................................

Poetryscams.com has discontinued posting anything about your site. We
are dedicated now to defining true scams. Other than tracking your
tail, we do not post any thing bad about your site. I wish you would
just stop. Try to look at this situation objectively. Even if we are
wrong, and you have every reason to be angry with us, there is no
reason to call us a scam. You didn't call us a scam before the
'argument' (http://tinyurl.com/5bw59) started.

I would like us to make ammends. Tell me what it is that you request
from me, and I will make every effort to correct our wrong-doings. You
are loosing some vaulable potential members by doing this. People have
e-mailed me from some of these forums you've posted to with questions
as to why this is happening and why you are so intent on these
malicious statements?

I know that you know that literaryescape.com is very well intended. I
know that you know that Jeff was not the brain child for the site. You
know that I know (starting to sound weird, huh?), that Jeff has indeed
responded in an ill manner at times, but that has nothing to do with
what you are posting all over the 'internet' (http://tinyurl.com/5wb2c)
about my site.

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Yet today she is posting this on abctales

Oh, and we are planning to add Publish America on our possible scam
list. That's the vanity press that published her awful drool.

[Rose DesRochers]

The thing is I have a book in print, I did not pay to publish my book
and it has sold copies and I do have many published authors within my
community. Also literaryescape has many authors who too were published
through Publish America. Tim an excellent poet being one of them.

I wonder how Tim will feel when you tell him that his book must be crap
because it was publish through PA ?

Is that not what you are saying anyone published through PA writes
crappy books?

I for one am pleased with PA I know some writers who are pleased and
some who are not.

I know some who have had their manuscript rejected by PA.

I also know that my book has sold copies, I have had publicity, I start
my book signings after Christmas and have been asked to do two school
readings.

So Mr. & Mrs. Paris. I am going to go on with my life and you list any
site that you feel in your head is a scam or black list msn hell I
don’t care. Because the thing is if you must live your life around me,
You have no life. We all need a chance in the spotlight and I never
subscribed to your issues but have received enough copies to write my
own book on harassment, internet stalking and those who pretend to be
something they are not. So good luck Mr. want to be PI.

I'm done , I'm out and I am not removing anything from Todays-Woman
that lists you as the character you are and Mrs.Paris I do apologize
that your husband used your website as his tool.

I do believe you had something good with LE and do believe there are
talented writers within LE but now sadly you are wrapped up in your
husband Game and here I thought you were the intelligent one.

Then has never been between you and I mrs.Paris untill last week I did
not know if you really existed.

This is about your husband thinking he can do what he wants and bully
the poetry communities or that he is the voice of all communities.

I also find it funny that you Mrs.Paris listed yourself in one forum
post as co-admin of Le is it not your site ?

The difference is my husband does not run my site I do

Rose


Ps forum Admin your edit does not work lol

[Rose]

Literature forums and Literature Vault are not owned by Jeff Paris and
Chrispian Burks of Literature Vault and Sean of Incka Limited
(Literature Vault) are no way associated with Jeff Paris they were only
websites that linked to him. Therefore I would like to make a formal
apology of my misunderstanding that these sites were Jeff’s and I
recommend that Writers both visit Literature Forums and Literature
Vaults as both names have been removed from Todays-Woman black list of
sites owned by Mr.Paris

Sites owned by Mr.Paris are

ZeroFunk.com
LiteraryEscape.com
Poetrylessons.com
Poetryscams.com
submityourpoetry.com
poetsportal.com
FreeOnlineBlogs.Com

[Unregistered]

This started, Rose, when you e-mailed Jeff to help you in your deranged
battle with yet another website. There seems to be a common
denominator here. When my husband found out that another website was
causing you troubles, (you accused the guy of hacking your site) Jeff
had your back and got belligerent with the guy.

You didn't find his crude behavior to be a problem then. Why not? He
was on your side. Then Jeff found out that the guy was wrongly accused
and apologized to him. The apology was well accepted, (not something
you'd expect from a hacker who was just called some very bad names).
Afterwards, if wouldn't mind going to that dark recess of your memory,
you became somewhat upset and chastized Jeff for trying to be a, in
your own words, "hero."

Then, Jeff realized that the only way to access the link to our site
from your site was to actually log in to your site! He e-mailed you a
polite message that simply stated that if you chose not to display it
somewhere where guests could see it, then he would remove your link.

We still have some of the ridiculously belligerent e-mails you've sent
us, but chose not to post them for the world to see.

What's funny, Rose, is that you never ever accept responsibility for
what you bring to the table. It isn't very professional to get as
upset as we did at you for your accusations. Yet, shouldn't you hold
yourself to those same standards? In that e-mail, I tried to reason
with you. I did in fact say that we were wrong for responding the way
we have, but I wasn't try to tell you that you were completely
innocent.

You have quite an extensive history of being rude to people. One of
the members from my site was also a member of your site. You massed
e-mailed something about humping on hump day and she asked not to
receive such messages. You didn't apologize or explain politely how
she could stop getting those messages; you called her something along
the lines of a whining teenager.

Another person e-mailed poetryscams.com and said something along the
same lines.

I didn't go to abctales until long after you infected every scam site
you could with false information regarding our sites.

You couldn't even get the names of our sites right! It's Literary,
dear, not Literacy.

You also decided to throw in the names of some other sites that we
simply linked to. If you can't tell which site is ours and which one
isn't, how reliable are you to be calling a site a scam?

Furthermore, you insist on finding a way to put a bad name on our sites
simply because you have problems with reading comprehension. We never
ever ever said that freecontest.com wasn't a scam. Honey, it just said
closed. If you clicked on it, you would have seen that we found it to
be a vanity press like poetry.com.

The bottom line is that if you don't like how we responded to you via
e-mail, and if you thought our behavior was inappropriate, (which it
wasn't for the first 8-10 belligerent e-mails that you sent and which
you so conveniently leave out of your little rant about us), you could
have posted a blacklist for link trades or something--not go around
calling our site a scam when in fact, your only problem with it is us.


Also, knowing that Jeff isn't the writer, that I am, why must you
insist on blaming him? You really like him don't you? Blame it all on
me, for crime's sake.

I would never have posted anything concerning this had you not posted
this issue everywhere. Have you noticed that I am always the second
one to respond? Yeah, I don't just go to random websites and talk
about how rude you are to your members and how you started e-mailing us
every ten seconds. I tried to avoid this, but knowing you are going to
every website related to writing and posting such awful things about
us, I feel I have no choice but to respond. You put me in a precarious
position. On one hand, these rebuttals and rants annoy the moderators,
but should I say nothing, they might actually believe you. (One
moderator told me exactly that!)

Our site is simply a community. The community is free. Poetryscams.com
lists real scams, and the only problem with it is what you have to say
about it.

Oh, and as far as my posts to abctales...you know, it takes a lot to
push my buttons. People can crap on my doorstep and I usually find a
way to rationalize their behavior. I even tried with you. Yes, I
tried, but eventually I sort of cracked up at the situation and decided
to let myself go and have a few laughs about you.

I wonder if you are really reading this whole thing and how you are
going to twist and contort what I have to say. (Although I know that
you really don't do it on purpose.) I am not kissing your behind here,
so I doubt that you will take too kindly to these words.

Now then, I've said my piece knowing it won't be the last word.

Consider this: What would have happened if you never went around
posting all of these accusations everywhere on the net?

The answer is nothing.

That's right, I would have never been compelled to respond and defend
my sites, never would have thought you to be a crazy obsessed lunatic,
and our sites, meaning yours and mine, would have quietly gone their
separate ways, and all would be quiet on the internet
superhighway--save for millions of other webmasters who blast at each
other. (Without a real live body there, it's kind of hard to judge
body language). --Right now my legs are crossed in the chair, pretzel
style, my face is quite relaxed, and shoulders are slouched--Just in
case you thought I was doubled over the keyboard with a menacing frown
and furled eyebrows. (Is furled a word?)

He Dicho.

Dev

[Unregistered]

In Response to:
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"I also find it funny that you Mrs.Paris listed yourself in one forum
post as co-admin of Le is it not your site ?

The difference is my husband does not run my site I do

Rose"
---------------

Honey, if my man is going to stay up all hours of the night
implementing, reorganizing, and scrutinizing every aspect of the site
to satisfy my every whim, hope and desire, you better believe I am
going to give him some credit. He is the technical mind behind the
wires of the site. Without him, the site would have still been a
Geocities site. We make a great team, don't we?

Dev

[Rose]

One more thing he lists honest scams on poetryscams b/s he listed me.

He is a guy who likes to toss his weight around and think the poetry
community or world wide web will kiss his tush. Then be blames it on
some sort of disorder.

oh and the letter was Happy Hump Day. I suggest you look up the
meaning of Hump and get your mind out of the gutter.

Though after dealing with a month of you and your husband I could use
some Happy Humping.

Hardy Har.


Later.

[Rose]

Oh yes Dev you do, you are as dishonest as he and his last email he sent
me as Tim Patrick was very amusing.

I really like the threats. You might want to watch that you are not
parenting as a single mother. Threats are against the law.

My husband programmed my entire website but as everyone knows
webmaster Etiquette, they received a credit but they don’t handle
everyday affairs.

Why is it this slanderous stuff started because of him?

and look again Dev Shawn DesRochers did attend and graduated with
honors.

Your husband just sticks his foot in his mouth everytime.

First he says anyone posted through PA write crappy books , then he
threatens to drag PA through the mudd because they published me.

So look your problem and your husbands are with me.

However you have insulted my husband, my community, the writers within
my community. What next Dev my children?


My webpage to started as an html page. I still have those html pages.

Yes Todays-Woman.net has been online two years however I have been
online for almost eight years.

A news tip it is no long how line you are online it is the reputation
you built for yourself during those two years on line.


Another news tip Jeff also remarks turning over Two America Citizens
the Canadian Law states that if we file a court action you will be
submins to court not forced and its your job to comply / show up and
failure not do so you will be found guilty.

I hope to see you there.

Because the letter your husband just sent me I now him on threats.

You might want to ask him what happens to a reseller after a threat
and you might want to ask him what it was he sent me in case you don’t
know.

I wonder Dev did you type that post or did Jeff as it sounds like more
his style then yours.

Oh and one more thing don't call me honey.


Oh and everyone my mistake in the above post I meant to say
poetrylessons.org I have no clue who owns the.com site.

[Unregistered]

Could You All Please Stop. Just Tell Me If These Sites Area Scam So I
Can Focuse On My Writing . Im 15 And These Scams Are Very Heartbreaking
When I Learned That Yhe Sites Could Be Fake.

[JF]

X-No-Archive: yes

Post by Unregistered
Could You All Please Stop. Just Tell Me If These Sites Area Scam So I
Can Focuse On My Writing . Im 15 And These Scams Are Very Heartbreaking
When I Learned That Yhe Sites Could Be Fake.

A start for focussing on your writing would be to ignore spam and try to
remember that one should not capitalize every word.

[Unregistered]

Could You All Please Stop. Just Tell Me If These Sites Area Scam So I
Can Focuse On My Writing . Im 15 And These Scams Are Very Heartbreaking
When I Learned That The Sites Could Be Fake.

[Tom Hise]

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 17:55:46 -0600, Unregistered

Post by Unregistered
Could You All Please Stop. Just Tell Me If These Sites Area Scam So I
Can Focuse On My Writing . Im 15 And These Scams Are Very Heartbreaking
When I Learned That The Sites Could Be Fake.

The best way to tell if it is a scam is to remember Yog's Law.

"Money flows towards the writer."

If that is not the case, it is a scam.

Any place wants your money rather than offering theirs is probably a scam.
Or possibly clueless, but still they won't help the writer.

[Rose DesRochers]

He also just proved that he listed us on his blacklist my husband got
'word' (http://tinyurl.com/3jkd7) of it and contacted him. There were
no 41 emails.

Not to mention the email I just received from his wife last night where
she asks
.....................................................................................................

Poetryscams.com has discontinued posting anything about your site. We
are dedicated now to defining true scams. Other than tracking your
tail, we do not post any thing bad about your site. I wish you would
just stop. Try to look at this situation objectively. Even if we are
wrong, and you have every reason to be angry with us, there is no
reason to call us a scam. You didn't call us a scam before the
'argument' (http://tinyurl.com/5bw59) started.

I would like us to make ammends. Tell me what it is that you request
from me, and I will make every effort to correct our wrong-doings. You
are loosing some vaulable potential members by doing this. People have
e-mailed me from some of these forums you've posted to with questions
as to why this is happening and why you are so intent on these
malicious statements?

I know that you know that literaryescape.com is very well intended. I
know that you know that Jeff was not the brain child for the site. You
know that I know (starting to sound weird, huh?), that Jeff has indeed
responded in an ill manner at times, but that has nothing to do with
what you are posting all over the 'internet' (http://tinyurl.com/5wb2c)
about my site.

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Yet today she is posting this on abctales

Oh, and we are planning to add Publish America on our possible scam
list. That's the vanity press that published her awful drool.

[Rose DesRochers]

That would be PublishAmerica.com

PublishAmerica is a traditional, royalty paying publisher. We are
strongly opposed to charging fees, ever.

Again facts one can not get right.


Just like Jeff Paris lists freecontest.com is not a scam :)

[Biljo White]

Rose, do you call yourself a writer? This post shows that you are
illiterate. Take a course, for chrissakes.

Post by Unregistered
I'm Rose DesRochers the Administrator of Todays-Woman Inc , I see the
wife of poetry-scams.com/Literaryescape.com has came here

'has came here!!' wow!